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William George Webb - Family History

	William Web	=	Mary Cumber
Sarah Bisiker	=	William George Webb	=	Caroline Carr
	William Webb		Caroline E Webb
	Mary Ann Webb		Eliza Webb
	Henry J Webb		Frederick J Webb
	Edith Webb		Emily Webb
	George Webb		Margaret Webb
	Joseph Webb		Eleanor Webb
	Arthur Webb

William G Webb was born in Ripley, Surrey on 9^th May 1821 and christened at Send and Ripley, Surrey on 29^th July 1821. His parents were listed as William Web (sic) and Mary.

In 1841 I have found William Webb as apprentice to Archibald Park, the second of the Park dynasty.

Census Extract 1841

HO107-667-6 Folio 15 - Page 21

Leonard Street, St Luke, London

Name	Age	Occupation	Born in County
Archibald Pack	40	Engraver	Yes
Sarah Pack	30		Yes
Alexander Pack	11m		Yes
Maria Prosser	20		Yes
In Separate rooms
William Webb	20	Apprentice	Yes
Maria Gordon	30	Female Servant	Yes
Emma Leaper?	15	Female Servant	Yes

William George Webb married Sarah Bisiker on 21^st September 1845 at St John’s Church, Hackney.

Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of St Johns, Hackney in the County of London
Date	Names	Age	Condition	Occupation	Abode	Father	Father’s Occupation
21^st Sept	William George Webb	Full Age	Bachelor	Engraver	North Street	William George Webb	Wool Merchant
1845	Sarah Bisiker	Full Age	Spinster		North Street	William Bisiker	Butcher

Witness to the marriage above was one James Webb. Was this WG Webb’s uncle who was also in the printing business and agent to JK Green?

See James Webb’s Family here.

Census Extract 1851

HO107-1506 Folio - Page

3 North Street, Hackney

Name	Relation to Head	Age	Occupation	Place of Birth
William Webb	Head	29	Engraver & Printer	Surrey
Sarah Webb	Wife	28		Middlesex
William Webb	Son	4		Middlesex
Mary Webb	Daughter	2		Middlesex
Sarah Webb	Daughter	5m		Middlsesex

By 1861 the William Webb and family had moved to 146 Old Street, St Luke, London

He was with his first wife, and more interestingly his mother-in-law was living with them.

Census Extract 1861

RG9-209 - Folio 153 - Page 14 - Schedule 45

146 Old Street, St Luke, London

Name	Relation to Head	Age	Occupation	Place of Birth
William Webb	Head	40	Engraver & Printer	Surrey, Ripley
Sarah Webb	Wife	38		Middlesex, St Luke
William Webb	Son	14		Middlesex, Hackney
Mary A Webb	Daughter	12		Middlesex, Hackney
Henry J Webb	Son	8		Surrey, Bermondsey
Edith Webb	Daughter	6		Surrey, Bermondsey
George Webb	Son	2		Middlesex, St Luke
Edith Bisiker	MiL	69		Herts, Stortfold?

On the 1871 Census he and his family still resided at 146 Old Street, St Luke, London

Census Extract 1871

RG10-411 - Folio 85 - Page 44 - Schedule 250

146 Old Street, St Luke, London

Name	Relation to Head	Age	Occupation	Place of Birth
William G Webb	Head	49	Engraver	Surrey, Ripley
Mary Ann Webb	Daughter	22		Middlesex, Hackney
Henry J Webb	Son	18	Printer	Surrey, Bermondsey
Edith Webb	Daughter	16		Surrey, Bermondsey
George Webb	Son	12	Scholar	Middlesex, St Luke
Joseph Webb	Son	9	Scholar	Middlesex, St Luke
Arthur Webb	Son	7	Scholar	Middlesex, St Luke
Walter C Russell	Boarder	19	Cooper	Middlesex, St Luke

Also under the same address, but a separate dwelling was almost certainly William G Webb’s son, William.

Name	Relation to Head	Age	Occupation	Place of Birth
William Webb	Head	24	House Carpenter	Middlesex, Hackney
Sarah Webb	Wife	23		Middlesex, Limehouse
Sarah Webb	Daughter	2		Middlesex, Finsbury
William Webb	Son	10m		Middlesex, Finsbury

In 1881 William is still at 146 Old Street, but he has remarried.

Most likely he married Caroline Carr (Dec Quarter 1873 – Hackney 1b 704)

Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of St Johns, Hackney in the County of London
Date	Names	Age	Condition	Occupation	Abode	Father	Father’s Occupation
30^th October	William George Webb	Full Age	Widower	Engraver	Union Street	William Webb	Gentleman
1873	Caroline Carr	Full Age	Spinster	---do---	Union Street	William Bisiker	Plumber

Census Extract 1881

RG11-0368 - Folio 104 - Page 39

146 Old Street, St Luke, London

Name	Relation to Head	Age	Occupation	Place of Birth
Will G Webb	Head	59	Printer	Ripley, Surrey
Caro Webb	Wife	38	Printer’s Wife	Stoke Newington, Middlesex
Henry J Webb	Son	28	Lithographic Printer	Bermondsey, Surrey
Edith Webb	Daughter	26		Bermondsey, Surrey
George Webb	Son	25	Goldsmith Jeweller	St Lukes
Joseph Webb	Son	19	Vellum Binder	St Lukes
Arthur Webb	Son	17	Printer’s Compositor	St Lukes
Caroline E Webb	Daughter	6	Scholar	St Lukes
Eliza Webb	Daughter	5	Scholar	St Lukes
Fred J Webb	Son	3		St Lukes
Emily Webb	Daughter	1		St Lukes

William G Webb died on 13^th January 1890 aged 69. His son Arthur of Isledon Road, was the informant.

By 1891 William G Webb had died leaving behind a widow and many young children. Eleanor was the youngest at 4 years of age, therefore born around 1887, with William G Webb dying from no earlier than 1886 but before 1891. William G Webb was still fathering children at the age of 65.

I have found a record of death for William George Webb (Aged 69 - Mar Quarter 1890 – Holborn 1b 619). This is almost certainly the correct record.

Census Extract 1891

RG12-234 - Folio 69 - Page 5

146 Old Street, St Luke, London

Name	Relation to Head	Age	Occupation	Place of Birth
Caro Webb	Head	46	Toy Shop Keeper	Stoke Newington, Middlesex
Edith Webb	St Daughter	36		Bermondsey, Surrey
Caroline E Webb	Daughter	16		St Lukes
Frederick J Webb	Son	13		St Lukes
Emily Webb	Daughter	11		St Lukes
Margaret Webb	Daughter	8		St Lukes
Eleanor Webb	Daughter	4		St Lukes

On the 1901 the family had split up and gone their separate ways. Caroline (aged 56) was living with her stepson Arthur Webb at 95 Ilsedon Road, Islington. Like his father Arthur had entered the printing trade and shown as a “Printer Compositor”. (RG13-199-Folio 127 Page 31/2)

Henry J Webb - Family History

Henry J Webb was born in Bermondsey, Surrey 27^th August 1852.

In 1857 WG Webb and his family moved to 49 Old Street, which was renumbered in 1861 to 146 Old Street.

Census Extract 1861

RG9-209 - Folio 153 - Page 14 - Schedule 45

146 Old Street, St Luke, London

Name	Relation to Head	Age	Occupation	Place of Birth
William Webb	Head	40	Engraver & Printer	Surrey, Ripley
Sarah Webb	Wife	38		Middlesex, St Luke
William Webb	Son	14		Middlesex, Hackney
Mary A Webb	Daughter	12		Middlesex, Hackney
Henry J Webb	Son	8		Surrey, Bermondsey
Edith Webb	Daughter	6		Surrey, Bermondsey
George Webb	Son	2		Middlesex, St Luke
Edith Bisiker	MiL	69		Herts, Stortfold?

Edith Bisiker was Sarah’s mother, born in Stortfold, Bedfordshire, under the name of Edith Slade.

On the 1871 Census he was still living with his parents and still at 146 Old Street, St Luke, London

Census Extract 1871

RG10-411 - Folio 85 - Page 44 - Schedule 250

146 Old Street, St Luke, London

Name	Relation to Head	Age	Occupation	Place of Birth
William G Webb	Head	49	Engraver	Surrey, Ripley
Mary Ann Webb	Daughter	22		Middlesex, Hackney
Henry J Webb	Son	18	Printer	Surrey, Bermondsey
Edith Webb	Daughter	16		Surrey, Bermondsey
George Webb	Son	12	Scholar	Middlesex, St Luke
Joseph Webb	Son	9	Scholar	Middlesex, St Luke
Arthur Webb	Son	7	Scholar	Middlesex, St Luke
Walter C Russell	Boarder	19	Cooper	Middlesex, St Luke

In 1881 Henry is still at 146 Old Street with his father and newly married step-mother.

Census Extract 1881

RG11-0368 - Folio 104 - Page 39

146 Old Street, St Luke, London

Name	Relation to Head	Age	Occupation	Place of Birth
Will G Webb	Head	59	Printer	Ripley, Surrey
Caro Webb	Wife	38	Printer’s Wife	Stoke Newington, Middlesex
Henry J Webb	Son	28	Lithographic Printer	Bermondsey, Surrey
Edith Webb	Daughter	26		Bermondsey, Surrey
George Webb	Son	25	Goldsmith Jeweller	St Lukes
Joseph Webb	Son	19	Vellum Binder	St Lukes
Arthur Webb	Son	17	Printer’s Compositor	St Lukes
Caroline E Webb	Daughter	6	Scholar	St Lukes
Eliza Webb	Daughter	5	Scholar	St Lukes
Fred J Webb	Son	3		St Lukes
Emily Webb	Daughetr	1		St Lukes

On 13^th January 1890, at the age of 69, WG Webb died.

By 1891 Henry had married and had moved out of the family home. He now resided at 16 Central Street and operated as a newsagent.

(Marriage Record = Sep Quarter 1882 = Emma Ann Crossman – Shoreditch 1c 274)

Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of St Johns, Hackney in the County of London
Date	Names	Age	Condition	Occupation	Abode	Father	Father’s Occupation
19^th Sep	Henry James Webb	30	Bachelor	Printer	St Mark Old Street	William George Webb	Engraver
1882	Emma Ann Crossman	23	Spinster		St Mark Old Street	William Henry Crossman	Tailor

Richard Speak was witness to the above marriage and appears below on the 1891 Census. Richard Speak’s father married Emma Crossman’s mother. Hence the Richard Speak shown above was actually Emma Webb’s cousin.

Census Extract 1891

RG12-232 - Folio 40 - Page 10

16 Central Street, St Luke, London

Name	Relation to Head	Age	Occupation	Place of Birth
Henry Webb	Head	38	Newsagent	Bermondsey
Emma Webb	Wife	38		St Luke
Clara Webb	Dau	10		St Luke
Henry J Webb	Son	7		St Luke
Sarah Edith Webb	Dau	5		St Luke
Charles Webb	Son	3		St Luke
Willm Webb	Son	11m		St Luke
Thomas Randall	Lodg	38	Painter	St Luke
Richd? Speak	Lodg	33	Bookmaker

By 1901 Henry had moved back to Old Street, now at number 124. Like his father he too had a large family.

Census Extract 1901

RG13-260 - Folio 84 - Page 1

124 Old Street, St Luke, London

Name	Relation to Head	Age	Occupation	Place of Birth
Henry Webb	Head	48	Juvenile Theatre Maker & Newsagent	St Luke
Emma Webb	Wife	43		St Luke
Clara Webb	Dau	20	Lady’s Mantle Finisher	St Luke
Henry Webb	Son	18	Stationers Assistant	St Luke
Edith Webb	Dau	15	Dressmaker	St Luke
Charles Webb	Son	13		St Luke
William Webb	Son	10		St Luke
Walter Webb	Son	8		St Luke
Elizabeth Webb	Dau	5		St Luke
Margaret Webb	Dau	3		St Luke
Baby Webb	Dau	2m		St Luke

Baby Webb was later christened Emily Lillian Frances Webb.

Laurie Webb, the great grandson of WG Webb helped with a great deal of the above information. Many thanks Laurie.